tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post8348145781547368653..comments2024-03-27T19:24:35.230-07:00Comments on TIME FOR REFLECTIONS: On the tongueVictor S E Moubarakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04280638667651857296noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-23839699775557367652013-07-13T08:29:02.957-07:002013-07-13T08:29:02.957-07:00Hi Vicky,
I agree with your sentiment about that ...Hi Vicky,<br /><br />I agree with your sentiment about that priest. As you say, he left to get married, perhaps his heart was not in his vocation. I've known three priests who left the church to get married; but I've not written any "Fr Ignatius" stories about them because it's such a touchy subject. One of my stories just hints at the subject. I'll look it up and publish it here shortly.<br /><br />As you know, I alternate my stories between humourous (Gertrude type) ones and the serious Fr Ignatius ones. I have to be careful with the Fr I stories if the sunject is contentious.<br /><br />God bless.Victor S E Moubarakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280638667651857296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-22404782723419086752013-07-13T02:31:39.656-07:002013-07-13T02:31:39.656-07:00We had this happen at our church, too, a few years...We had this happen at our church, too, a few years ago, Victor. The priest went up to the person concerned and sorted things out. The funny thing was that this same priest once told me he disliked giving communion on the tongue. He found it disgusting to have to face someone's tongue. I wonder if he ever reflected on the practical benefits - though, he left the priesthood to get married so, maybe, he didn't.<br /><br />Great post, Victor:-)Vickyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10020095571963954615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-86277631867112305982013-07-13T00:45:44.348-07:002013-07-13T00:45:44.348-07:00Thank you Melanie. I try in my stories to put in a...Thank you Melanie. I try in my stories to put in an element of reality - most of my stories are based on true events.<br /><br />Look out for the sequel soon.<br /><br />God bless.Victor S E Moubarakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280638667651857296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-58216273310879675122013-07-13T00:43:42.896-07:002013-07-13T00:43:42.896-07:00Thank you Daily Grace. God bless you and yours.Thank you Daily Grace. God bless you and yours.Victor S E Moubarakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280638667651857296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-80945060219880647982013-07-13T00:40:49.935-07:002013-07-13T00:40:49.935-07:00Your explanation of breaking the host in half and ...Your explanation of breaking the host in half and so on is excellent, Hand-Maid. This is what concerns me about Communion in the hand. The small particles of Host. Time was ... many many years ago ... when everyone genuflected by the Altar rail and Communion was on the tongue only, and the Altar boys (I was one) carried a little silver plate which they placed under the communicant's chin in case any particles of Host fell. <br /><br />I know of a priest in London who does NOT want to give Communion on the tongue. When someone opens his mouth and tongue out the priest makes the point by expressly pressing the Host on the communicant's tongue. What a bad example of priesthood! <br /><br />God bless you Hand-Maid, and thank you for all the good work you do with your pupils.<br /><br />Victor S E Moubarakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280638667651857296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-75875511589158056282013-07-12T21:06:10.130-07:002013-07-12T21:06:10.130-07:00great sense of drama, I was completly caught up in...great sense of drama, I was completly caught up in the story- powerful answer, perfect for the characterMelanie Jean Juneauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14762839203074357706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-9529073945482561682013-07-12T19:13:54.514-07:002013-07-12T19:13:54.514-07:00Sadly, I have witnessed the "taking Communion...Sadly, I have witnessed the "taking Communion back to the pew" twice. At each incident, the priests (two entirely different priests & parishes) followed the communicant, having the person consume the consecrated Host. <br /><br />I should clarify, I also teach my students to receive both on the tongue and in the hand so that they know how to do so properly. In case they are ever "denied" on the tongue - whether out of ignorance or malice, usually from extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers (laity). I understand and completely follow the Church that you can receive both on the tongue or in the hand. As for me and my family, we always receive on the tongue.<br /><br />As I mentioned, during our First Holy Communion Mass, every child receives on the tongue...but also, every child wants to receive on the tongue. One reason;<br />I teach them this way:<br />(I ask the children) If you take the Holy Eucharist and break in half, so that you have two pieces, do you have half of Jesus in one hand and the other half of Him in the other hand? (By this point in the year) They always answer emphatically "NO, both are Jesus..."<br />I go on, "If you take one half and break that in half, do you have a quarter of Him?" Again..."NO", but some children at this point are quiet. I continue, "If you take the quartered Host and keep breaking it...until you have the very smallest, tiniest, particle, do you still have Jesus - entirely?" (long & short of it) If Jesus is placed on your hand, how do you know that some small crumb or particle is not still remaining on your hand? *silence* I leave them with this to ponder...until the next lesson.<br />Sorry for the long post. Hopefully it is not too confusing...Hand-Maid With Lovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12391771730841208965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-71898460327721492772013-07-12T15:50:41.362-07:002013-07-12T15:50:41.362-07:00I agree with you Victor, completelyI agree with you Victor, completelyDaily Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02243579752950295851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-34643219642763685732013-07-12T15:15:57.618-07:002013-07-12T15:15:57.618-07:00Thank you Daily Grace for sharing your story. Your...Thank you Daily Grace for sharing your story. Your husband is very brave and you are right to be proud of him.<br /><br />The question of Communion in the hand is an issue which the Church has delayed tackling once and for all. There have been many stories of the Host being taken by those who do not believe and in some cases miss-used. The clergy have a special responsibility as guardians of Our Lord's body; and for too long our priests, at all levels, have neglected their duty in this respect.<br /><br />God bless you and your family.Victor S E Moubarakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280638667651857296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-42320709711490750312013-07-12T13:51:36.137-07:002013-07-12T13:51:36.137-07:00Victor,
This story reminds me of a funeral Mike &...Victor,<br /><br />This story reminds me of a funeral Mike & I went to for our dear friends mother. There were many people in attendance, not all were Catholic, and when it was time for Holy Communion, the priest forgot to mention that those who were either not Catholic or were unable to receive Holy Communion, should, should place their hands in a crossed position and he would give them a blessing.<br /><br />Well, the group in the pew in front of us apparently were not Catholic and did not know what to do with the Host and started passing it to one another. My husband Mike move forward with lightening speed took it from the young mans hand and quickly put the Host in his mouth, then returned to his knees with his eyes closed in prayer.<br />He received many dirty looks from the group in front of us, but he never acknowledged noticing.<br /><br />I was actually very proud of my husband and considered him to be a guard of Our Lord at that moment.<br /><br />Thank you for sharing this story. I enjoyed it very much.<br />Daily Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02243579752950295851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-5058829921304587822013-07-12T13:34:44.672-07:002013-07-12T13:34:44.672-07:00Hi Hand-Maid,
Although my Father Ignatius stories...Hi Hand-Maid,<br /><br />Although my Father Ignatius stories are fictitious they are sometimes based on truth. Not so long ago, whilst giving Communion, our priest noticed that a young girl took the Host in her hand but did not put it in her mouth. He stopped giving Communion and followed her with his eyes. I was at hand in case he asked me to intervene. Eventually, when she got to her pew she put the Host in her mouth.<br /><br />We discussed this afterwards. He said he preferred Communion on the tongue but these days he is not allowed to refuse Communion in the hand.<br /><br />It's good your students receive on the tongue. The Church must make a decision on this for all priests to abide by.<br /><br />God bless.Victor S E Moubarakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280638667651857296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-75839659506586010952013-07-12T12:05:13.302-07:002013-07-12T12:05:13.302-07:00What an awesome answer.
As a catechist of young F...What an awesome answer.<br /><br />As a catechist of young First Holy Communion students, I very much appreciate this story. Thank you, Victor.<br /><br />PS - When my students receive Communion, it is always on the tongue. I spend a lot of time covering this subject...Hand-Maid With Lovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12391771730841208965noreply@blogger.com