tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post9062134188842600349..comments2024-03-28T20:33:30.788-07:00Comments on TIME FOR REFLECTIONS: Marriage Divorce AnnulmentVictor S E Moubarakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04280638667651857296noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-23684688590631807032018-09-04T05:48:15.603-07:002018-09-04T05:48:15.603-07:00Hey,
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...Thank you David for your well considered comment.<br /><br />I wonder how Christ would say in such circumstances. The couple married at age 19 and had a baby. The husband cheated on the wife and left her with the baby. They divorced, she being totally innocent. Would a loving Christ condemn her to a lifetime without love and more children? <br /><br />What grounds are there for annulment? Is the Catholic Church (of whom I am one) saying that all marriages not conducted in a Catholic Church are adulterous? Had the marriage at age 19 been conducted in an Anglican Church (or other denomination) the Catholic Church would NOT have recognised it; and hence would not have recognised the subsequent divorce. <br /><br />I have researched this and this is my understanding of our Church's position.<br /><br />God bless you.Victor S E Moubarakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280638667651857296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-10961374965757676602015-04-20T17:17:35.655-07:002015-04-20T17:17:35.655-07:00I don't know if the story is true, but if it i...I don't know if the story is true, but if it is, it is a sad commentary on how many Catholics dismiss the most basic Catholic teaching on Marriage. A vow is a vow... if the couple had all the intention to honor the 3 bona of marriage at the time of saying "I Do" in the presence of a priest - whether they be 19 or 29 - then a valid Catholic marriage was made. Doesn't matter if it fell apart a week, a month or 20 years later. If they divorce and then remarry sans annulment, they put themselves at enmity with Christ and His Church and put their immortal Soul in grave danger. Truth doesn't change, especially the Truth that came from Our Lord's own mouth. It isn't always pleasant and palatable, but it remains the Truth nonetheless... Dave Heathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14125219877561369565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-21985380850625278792015-04-20T01:50:09.428-07:002015-04-20T01:50:09.428-07:00Too true, Charles. Too true.
God bless you.Too true, Charles. Too true.<br /><br />God bless you.Victor S E Moubarakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280638667651857296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-7237241998823278232015-04-19T18:49:19.963-07:002015-04-19T18:49:19.963-07:00So sad Victor. Relationship issues and our handica...So sad Victor. Relationship issues and our handicap in dealing with them largely distract many from Christ and His Church. O Lord help us!.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02438054404056853252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-54139326366476642002015-04-19T12:49:46.121-07:002015-04-19T12:49:46.121-07:00It's good to know that in this case the Church...It's good to know that in this case the Church expedited the paperwork and the couple did get married; Ceil. Sadly this is not always the case.<br /><br />I have researched our rules/dogmas before writing this post, which is based on real life. Usually it takes a long time for annulment to take place. Especially if, as in this case, divorce happened years ago (when the lady was 22 with child) and the husband, after divorce, has vanished and cannot be found. He cheated on her after her pregnancy and they divorced. She was too upset to get on with her life and raise a baby, to seek anulment at the time.<br /><br />In any case, what reason is there for annulment? A couple married, one partner cheated, and they divorced. This is not enough for the Church to grant annulment.<br /><br />So in effect, the Church is saying the young lady, now 32, cannot find love again or have other children because she would be commiting adultery. No wonder, in real life, they married elsewhere and left the Catholic Church.<br /><br />Did you know that, had she married in an Anglican (or other denomination) Church; and there was no Catholic priest there, (not even as a guest), then the marriage, and the subsequent divorce would not have been recognised by the Catholic Church; and she'd be free to marry in the Catholic Church?<br /><br />This seems odd to me. However, if a Catholic priest was a guest at the wedding and did not take part in the ceremony, the wedding in the Anglican Church would have been recognised and she could not marry again without an annulment.<br /><br />As you say, our Church does drop the ball sometimes, and create a lot of hurt in the process. I know of several such cases in real life. I'll write a similar story here soon.<br /><br />God bless.Victor S E Moubarakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280638667651857296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-18082197015801453772015-04-19T11:01:22.867-07:002015-04-19T11:01:22.867-07:00Hi Victor! Wow, this is probably more common than ...Hi Victor! Wow, this is probably more common than I will ever know. <br />A friend of mine has a daughter who wanted to marry a man who was not Catholic, but was married in the Catholic church before. He was willing to go through RCIA, and get an annulment.<br />The annulment was getting nowhere, and it was coming up to Holy Week. The pastor (God love him) told them to write a letter to the Tribunal and tell them that the young man wanted to enter the church on Easter Sunday. He did all the work, and was to be married the next weekend.<br /><br />The Church expedited the paperwork after realizing the originals were lost. It usually takes three meetings to grant an annulment, but they did it in one. Sometimes, prayers are answered. He received his sacraments on Easter, and married in the Church the next Saturday. <br />Does our church miss the ball? Oh yes. But sometimes it tries really hard too. <br />Blessings,<br />CeilCeilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06293917798735764739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-34061712148905620332015-04-18T15:19:39.104-07:002015-04-18T15:19:39.104-07:00I understand Lulu. Sometimes divorces happen and o...I understand Lulu. Sometimes divorces happen and one party is entirely innocent. The Catholic Church sometimes makes it very difficult for that innocent person to get on with their lives.<br /><br />God bless.Victor S E Moubarakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280638667651857296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100862372880209397.post-7020461131256578692015-04-18T12:49:55.963-07:002015-04-18T12:49:55.963-07:00It's complicated enough--without this can of w...It's complicated enough--without this can of worms. I could write a book, Victor!<br />Blessings!luluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11520683067915486215noreply@blogger.com