After the war Britain was in a state of flux. It may have won the war with its allies, but things had changed. People were confused. Many had lost friends and relatives at the front or in the bombings of many towns and cities. Many more had been wounded, injured or disabled for life. Soldiers were returning home to find there was no jobs for them. Some had lost their homes. Others had lost their families. Marriages and relationships were under strain with many couples not having seen each other for three or more years whilst fighting abroad or lingering in prison camps. The order of things as we knew them were not the same any more and people found it difficult to adjust.
One significant change was peoples' spiritual lives. Some continued to believe in whatever deity they felt comfortable with; whilst many more seemed to rebel against a God who allowed all the evil and suffering to happen.
Father Ignatius was in London for a conference. On his way back home, whilst at the railway station, he decided to kill time by going to the corner shop for a cup of tea. His train was not due for an hour or so.
As he sat at his table reading the newspaper a man in his late thirties approached him and asked, "It's crowded here. Do you mind if I share your table?"
The old priest smiled and invited him to sit. Noticing that Father Ignatius was wearing his white clerical collar, the man said, "You're a priest are you?"
"Yes, I am ..." replied Father Ignatius.
"I'm surprised there's still any people like you around," said the man, "after all that's happened these last few years I can't see how you believe in a God that's let it all happen."
Father Ignatius thought it best not to respond. He just smiled feebly.
"I was a soldier you know," continued the man as Father Ignatius nodded to encourage him to go on. It was obvious that the man wanted to vent out and Father Ignatius was to be the recipient of pent up anger.
"I was a soldier," he said, "if I could tell you of the horrors I've seen. But we're not allowed to talk about it. I lost many friends; one of them died in my very arms. He was only 19.
"How can a loving God not intervene and stop it all? There was a time I believed you know. I was brought up a Catholic, I was an Altar boy. Now I believe it was all a hoax. Either God does not exist or He does not really care."
"I can understand how you feel," Father Ignatius said gently.
"Do you? Do you really? What do you really know?" interrupted the man putting his cup down forcible that it rattled the saucer.
"I was a soldier too ... in the First War," replied Father Ignatius.
"Oh ..." said the man uncomfortably. Father Ignatius chose to continue talking in order to dilute the situation a little. "You are not alone to feel as you do towards God," he said, "several of my parishioners have told me the same as you.
"Whether you believe in God or not is your own prerogative; a personal matter. But let us assume for a moment that He exists. Which side would you have Him on in this war?"
The man was surprised at this line of questioning and said nothing.
Father Ignatius continued, "Let us assume that in the opposing army there is a devout Christian believer. Should God protect him from our soldiers? Should He take sides on an individual basis protecting only those who believe in Him and love Him? You said you don't believe in Him, so where does that leave you? Should He abandon you in the heat of war? Or does He love all His children as His creations regardless of whether they believe in Him or not?"
The man shrugged his shoulders and said nothing.
"Does God love you?" asked Father Ignatius.
"I don't know ..." replied the man shrugging his shoulders again.
"I am certain that He does," Father Ignatius said smiling a little to ease the tension, "whether you believe in Him or not. He loves you and He understands how you feel. even though I may not, as you said.
"God has witnessed all the hurt and suffering on all sides of this war. He did not intervene in order to protect our own freedoms to do as we want. Even to the point of not believing in Him. He hurts and He grieves at all the deaths and sufferings that this war has caused. He grieves just as you grieve. The only difference is that He grieves at how evil we have become."
There followed a short period of silence. It was only for a few seconds; but seconds can be an eternity at certain times such as this one.
The man spoke first, "I also had difficulties," he mumbled, "when I believed that is ... I had difficulties in understanding that the host we have at Communion and the wine are really the body and blood of Christ. How can that be?"
Father Ignatius replied in softer tones. "As you may know," he said, "the Catholic Church takes this teaching from the Gospel of John Chapter 6 where Jesus says several times that He is "the Bread of life" and that unless people eat His flesh or drink His blood they will not have eternal life. Look it up in the Bible.
"This is a central belief of our Catholic faith and the Church invites its followers to believe this is so. Of course, there are many, including Catholics, who believe this is all symbolism. Christ did not really mean it as such.
"Now then ... let us assume, as I said earlier, that God exists. I believe He does. But for the sake of argument, seeing you no longer believe in Him, let us assume He exists ... is that OK?"
The man nodded.
"Let us assume God exists and you believe in Him. But you do not believe that at Communion we receive the real body and blood of Christ. You think it's all symbolism.
"Let us then assume, which I believe to be a certainty, that we will all one day meet God face to face. Who would you rather be? ... ... ... Someone who did not believe Communion is the body and blood of Christ and you find out that it is so, just as Jesus said? Or someone who believed and found out it was symbolism after all?
"You see the subtle difference?"
The man smiled and said nothing.
"You see my friend," Father Ignatius smiled back, "I take the view that Jesus was not a liar. He said something that we do not understand, and many theologians and learned people have debated over it for years. For me, it is easier to just accept what Jesus said and believe it in good faith; even though I don't understand it. The alternative is not to believe and in so doing imply Jesus was a liar."
"Thank you, Father," said the man, calling the priest by his proper title for the first time, "you have given me a lot to think about. I wish I could talk with you for hours on end. I have to go now and catch my train."
"Go in peace, my friend," replied the kind old priest, "I shall be praying for you!"
...and I believe that God gave me a mind to exercise daily.
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DeleteGod bless, Tom.
You've made my day, Victor, with another heart-warming Fr. Ignatius story. Thank you and blessings!
ReplyDeleteI thought this story would be appropriate for VE Day. I'm so glad you enjoyed it, Martha. I'll have to collect all these short stories in another book.
DeleteGod bless you and your family.
Wonderful story and a great message. Thanks, Victor.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Bill. God bless.
DeleteGreat message to us Victor - true.
ReplyDeleteMany thanx, Sandie. God bless you.
DeleteWhat a good conversation. Thank you, too, for the history lesson about how the Brits felt after WWII. I did not know that. It makes a lot of sense. It also teaches me that trauma of any kind affects us so deeply. We need to respect that in ourselves as we work through it and we also need to respect how others respond to their hurts. And pray for them (and ourselves).
ReplyDeleteThank you Barbara for your sensitive comment. Food rationing in the UK continued until 1954. Many soldiers returned home to find no jobs for them, or family relations strained because of their long absences from home. Also the suffering of having lost loved ones in the war, or having disabled family members and friends, added to the difficulties of life returning back to normal.
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I appreciate this story more than you could ever know. I think so many of our military guys who have witnessed such bad things are today, sitting in the same chair as the old man. This saddens me terribly. How many times have I heard, "How could God allow such evil, such horrible things that happen to children, such death in time of war?" I certainly do not have answers, but I do know that I believe in God and what I can do is to share the gospel. I have a grandson in the military who is struggling now with questions and all I can do is pray!!
ReplyDeleteThe thing is, we are too quick to blame God when things go wrong in our lives. But it is not God who makes the bad things; He just allows them to happen. He allows them to happen because to stop bad things would mean interfering with our free will to do as we want. It is humans who do bad things, (often influenced by the devil), not God. Yet, in our misguided mentality we blame Him for the wrongs that we do.
DeleteGod bless you and your family, Shug.
Such a good story and message.
ReplyDeleteAll the best Jan
Thank you, Jan. God bless.
DeleteAbsolutely, Jesus was not a liar! The way in which you've written, I could totally visualize this conversation. Wonderful!
ReplyDeleteMany thanx, Mevely. Indeed, although we may not understand what Jesus taught, we should trust that He spoke the truth.
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Love always. ❤️
ReplyDeleteGod bless, CM.
DeleteHe told the truth because He is the truth.
ReplyDeleteAmen, Mimi. God bless you.
DeleteI enjoyed the story and it reminds me of our Jewish friend who is struggling with the Holocaust and his mom, a survivor and God allowing it to happen. While the man in the story may not have immediately accepted God, the talk gave him a lot to think on and just enough room for him to finally see the light!
ReplyDelete⬆️. That was me, Debby!
DeleteYes Debby; God often gives us new opportunities in life to see the light and re-assess our thoughts and beliefs. I pray for your friend that he may realise that God is not to blame for what happened at the Holocaust or any other wars and conflicts that have ever happened. It is humanity which rebels against itself and its very Creator.
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thecontemplativecat here. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Light...seems simple enough. But, maybe it is too simple for those who expect more of a process.
ReplyDeleteIt is not simple for those who do not want to believe.
DeleteGod bless, Susan.
The conversation between Father Ignatius and the soldier… so honest, so human. I recognized myself in both of them: in the pain of not understanding, and in the quiet faith that chooses to believe even when it doesn't all make sense.✝️
ReplyDeleteThank you Aritha for your kind comment.
DeleteFather Ignatius is a fictional character from my novels and short stories. I'm glad you liked this tale.
Here's the list of Fr Ignatius and other books.
https://victormoubarak.wixsite.com/victormoubarak/books-co77
God bless you always.
Thank you!
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