Wednesday, 17 April 2019

The Judas Question


Father Ignatius was chairing the monthly “Any Questions” meeting at the Parish Hall. This is an event he had initiated some time ago whereby parishioners and their guests gather of an evening, and after refreshments of tea, coffee, hot chocolate drinks and cakes, they sit in cinema fashion and ask him any question totally un-prepared. Usually the questions are about the day to day running of the church, or the two Catholic schools nearby; but more often than not there are some questions about Christianity and the Catholic Faith.

Father Ignatius was convinced that the hot drinks and cakes were the main attraction; but he was assured this was not the case.

His curve ball came from a young lady sitting at the front.

“Father,” she said, “I can’t help feeling sorry for Judas. What chance did he really have? He had to betray Jesus; because if he didn’t do so, he’d be going against God’s will. So what choice or free will did Judas have?”

The priest put down his cup of coffee and cleaned his spectacles; a trick he had learnt in order to gain time.

“Would it help if I say I don’t know the answer to this?” he said eventually.

After a short pause the young lady continued, “well Father, I don’t understand the difference between our free will, or Judas’ free will, to do as we wish, and pre-destination to do what God has determined will happen.”

Before the priest could answer a man put up his hand and said: “Oddly enough, I was reading about this the other day. In John Chapter 17 I think it was. When Jesus was praying for His disciples He says to God something like ‘I kept the disciples safe. Not one was lost except the one who was meant to be lost so that the Scriptures may come true.’ This implies that Judas had no choice. He was pre-programmed as it were to betray Jesus.”

A few of the audience murmured at this; perhaps they hadn't read or heard about it.

“Free will and pre-destination are matters which have taxed many a learned brain over the centuries,” replied Father Ignatius gently, “and no doubt they will continue to do so.

“I am not God, and so I do not have a definite answer for you. But I assure you I will ask Him when I get to meet Him.

“In the meantime, let us consider the question a bit more.

“When God created us He had two choices.

“He could have created a species of robots. All pre-programmed to obey Him, to love Him and to do His will without question.

“And how trouble-free that would have been! No sin, no rebellion, no satan.

“But God loved us so much that He gave us a precious gift. He gave us the gift to choose. He allowed us to decide whether to love Him back, or not.

“When He invited us to return His love for us, He did so with no coercion whatsoever from His part. Love given freely by Him, and returned freely by us; but only if we want to.

“Hence our free will to choose.

“We are free to decide what we do with our lives. To love and obey Him, or to go our own way.

“Yet having said so, there are instances in the Bible where God does lead, or encourage, certain people in some direction. Look at the way he nudged Paul on the way to Damascus for instance.”

The audience laughed.

“You may well laugh,” continued Father Ignatius, “but God may have seen some good qualities in Paul which could come useful in furthering God’s Word on earth. And how right He was!

“After all, why should the devil have all the good talent?”

The audience laughed again.

“So …,” went on the priest after they had settled down, “whilst on the face of it there is some evidence, in our eyes, that God does lead us in some direction it is somewhat presumptuous on our part to try to analyze when this is pre-destination and when it is free will.

“But this so-called evidence is in our eyes only. Because we try to understand God in human terms. Something we should not do, in my opinion, because we are humans and He is not.

“By analyzing Him in human terms we bring Him down to our level. And this is wrong.

“God does not want us to understand Him and analyze His motives. He wants us to love Him and to dare to obey Him, in blind Faith, in the sure knowledge that He knows what He is doing.

“Can we do that? Dare to obey Him without question?

“And not want to serve God in an advisory capacity. But as obedient children, trusting His every word and action.”

The priest stopped for a second and sipped his coffee.

“Let Him be God and let us be humans. And let us always be willing to listen to Him when He leads us in a certain direction” continued Father Ignatius.

“I really cannot tell you whether Judas was pre-programmed, as you put it, or not. Did Judas really have a free choice? Could he have decided not to follow his evil instincts and not betray Jesus? In the Gospel of John he tells us that Jesus gave a piece of bread to Judas, to point at the one who was to betray Him, and at that instant 'Satan entered into him'; signifying perhaps that it was the devil who betrayed Jesus, and Judas was only an instrument in all this. I really do not have an answer to this, but I trust God to know the answer to that question and to have dealt with it with compassion, fairness and love.

“Finally, I wish to say this.

“I did not fall out of bed one morning and decide to become a priest. At the time, I felt led by God to follow the path to priesthood. It was a gradual process, it took time and it took a lot of thinking and praying … and eventually, I knew that He was calling me.

“God may well be calling some of you these days. Not necessarily into the priesthood, but to listen to Him and His will for you.

“I pray that you’d be listening when He calls you to do whatever He asks of you in this life.”

18 comments:

  1. 'Predestination' vs. 'free will' is a deep topic. I wonder though, IF some of us who are seeking answers to this question are really, looking to blame God for the difficult events in our lives. We 'humans' just don't like to be held responsible for the 'bad' or 'stupid' or 'sinful' decisions we make.

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    1. It's great to see you visiting here, Suzanne. Thank you. Please call again soon and often.

      You are right. Humans tend to want to blame someone else, God, for their own actions. God allows bad things to happen. He does not make them happen. It is we humans who make bad things happen by exercising our free will.

      For example, there is no point blaming God for poverty. We have the means to resolve the world's poverty problems if we want to. But blaming Him is easier.

      God bless.

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  2. Listening is sometimes the hardest thing we have to do, isn't it.

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  3. I like/appreciate the 'God's God, I'm not' response.

    Living in time and space, I figure we couldn't understand God's viewpoint - even if we had near-God intelligence.

    A bigger puzzle, for me, and from my understanding of what we've been learning about God and creatures with free will, isn't so much how Judas and the Pharaoh who bungled the Moses negotiations could have acted as they did.

    It's how the angel we call Satan/Lucifer could have decided that 'my way' was preferable to 'God's way.'

    Theologians have offered plausible explanations - and that gets me into what we're learning about the chain of creation and I'd better stop now.

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    1. As I see it, Brian, God created angels and because of His love and generosity He gave them free will too. Just like He gave us free will. He did not create machines to serve Him; but spirits to enjoy all of His creations here on earth. For we are spirits. Our bodies are only the outer packages to be discarded at death.

      Lucifer, using his free will, rebelled. He wanted to be like God. He encouraged Adam and Eve to be like God. The rest is history.

      Free will perfectly exercised by humanity. Responsibilities and outcomes are all part of the package.

      God bless.

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  4. What a thought-provoking discussion here, Victor. I've often wondered about Judas, too, and I like how Fr. Ignatius explains the best he can. Yes, we are not meant to understand God's workings and reasonings, but we are called to love and obey Him.
    Blessings!

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    1. God wants us to be receptive to His love and to His calling. Sometimes, He sees something in us worth pursuing so He invites us to follow Him. Like He did to St Paul. Some of us respond to His calling and we become priests, missionaries, helpers and volunteers for charitable work and son on.

      Others, are more receptive to the devil's calling. Like Judas. They still exercise their free will. They have a choice to listen and respond to God, or to the devil.

      Judas chose the latter. God knew that all along, because He knows the past, present and future. But He did not interfere. He did not stop Judas. To have done so would have meant interfering with Judas' free will to listen to the devil.

      So yes - Judas had free will in his choice. And God knew it all along. Hence the words of Christ; " Not one was lost except the one who was meant to be lost so that the Scriptures may come true."

      God bless you, Martha.

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  5. I believe that we all have choices to make in life...some good,some bad. The Bible, in my personal opinion of course, is a tool to help us in our lives when we seek help. In the end it is we who make the final decision.
    I do not believe people are born bad or good. Each one of us makes our own decision.

    God's Blessings Victor ✝

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    1. You are right Jan. We are free to make our own decisions, our own choices, good or bad, and enjoy or suffer the consequences.

      God bless you.

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    2. I'm always a little late to many of your posts Victor but I always enjoy reading them (although I do not always comment).

      Take this one today …
      I find myself in agreement with Jan/JFM.

      Each one of us makes our own decision. Yes, we may well ask for God's guidance, but the decision is ours to make.

      All the best Jan

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    3. We would like you to comment more often Jan. That's how we learn from each other.

      You, and Jan/JFM are right. We all make our own decisions in life; whether good or bad. God can/may influence us, but the final choice is ours if we are receptive to His guidance.

      God bless you.

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  6. I believe we have free will, but through the ability to understand consequences, and a desire to be liked and or loved by others, God influences our free will decisions.

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    1. Yes JoeH. God influences, encourages, our decisions. But at the end of the day it is our free will to listen to Him, or not. He does not enforce His decisions on our free will.

      God bless.

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  7. This never crossed my mind! What a conundrum! Reminds me of that Joplin lyric, "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."

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    1. Me & Bobby McGee - Kris Kristofferson. I used to play it often as a radio presenter. Although I prefer the Waylon Jennings version.

      God bless you, Mevely.

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  8. We do make our own decisions, God gave us that choice. We have control over our lives, it is us who decides and us who pays the price for our decisions. God is there for guidance, he'll listen to us but will we listen to him.

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    1. Well said, Bill. God listens to us, and will offer guidance; but only if we ask and if we are willing to listen to Him.

      God bless you.

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